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at the same dinner a more sober, compassionate, marco rubio emerged as a champion for the, let's see if you can guess. >> middle class, american middle class, great american middle class. vibrant and stable middle class. m middle class job creator. middle class. >> with 35 mentions in one speech, rubio made his love for the middle class clear. his solution what ails the middle class, tax cuts. >> they do not create rapid economic growth. you can't open or grow a business if your taxes are too high or uncertain. that's why i personally opposed the president's plan to raise taxes. we should keep rates low on everyone. >> paul ryan, meanwhile, channel his inner ian rand, the problem for the american poor is a bloated federal government. a bloated federal government that wants to spend too much to help the poor. >> government's approach has been to expand bureaucracy and spend lots of money on bloated top-down anti-poverty programs. we're trying to measure compassion by how much we spend not by how many people we help. >> the takeaway, we care. we care about the same things we always car
at the same dinner a more sober, compassionate, marco rubio emerged as a champion for the, let's see if you can guess. >> middle class, american middle class, great american middle class. vibrant and stable middle class. m middle class job creator. middle class. >> with 35 mentions in one speech, rubio made his love for the middle class clear. his solution what ails the middle class, tax cuts. >> they do not create rapid economic growth. you can't open or grow a business if...
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. >>> plus, a big night for paul ryan and senator marco rubio. did they just make a big announcannouncement? announcannouncement? you'll hear it for youououououou [ male announcer ] this december, remember -- ♪ you can stay in and like something... ♪ [ car alarm deactivates ] ♪ ...or you can get out there with your family and actual like something. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is on, offering some of our best values of the year. this is the pursuit of perfection. offering some of our best values of the year. [ female announcer ] some people like to pretend a flood could never happen to them. and that their homeowners insurance protects them. [ thunder crashes ] it doesn't. stop pretending. only flood insurance covers floods. ♪ visit floodsmart.gov/pretend to learn your risk. >>> the senator is blasting president obama for his handling or lack of handling of the fiscal crisis. senator is warning it's increasingly clear that the president is comfortable going off the cliff. he joins us. nice to see you, sir. >> thanks for
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. >>> plus, a big night for paul ryan and senator marco rubio. did they just make a big announcannouncement? you'll hear it for yourself. >>> the senator is blasting president obama for his handling or lack of handling of the fiscal crisis. senator is warning it's increasingly clear that the president is comfortable going off the cliff. he joins us. nice to see you, sir. >> thanks for having me. >> so you think the president is comfortable or does he want to go off the cliff? >> well, he's being advised to go off the cliff. howard dean has said it. papatty murray said they shouldo over the cliff. i think the president sees a political victory for his party if they go over the cliff. i know republicans are concerned that there's going to be a second recession if we go over the cliff. >> what does he gain from going over the cliff? >> well, taxes go up on everyone which gives the president lots of additional money to spend on new government programs. additionally, he has all these military cuts that many liberal democrats have been hoping for for y
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marco rubio and paul ryan spoke at this dinner. these are speeches where they're trying to define who they are. how would a rubio ryan stack up against clinton? it sort of feels like 2008 reversed except experience would come on the democratic side with hillary and youth might come from rubio or ryan on the republican side. >> clinton is a favorite among young people, especially young women. they're going to help determine future elections. i think paul ryan and marco rubio, they're trying to rebrand themselves and recast the republican party as a party of diversity and perhaps big ideas and a larger goal post. but i want to say this because i have to say this as vice chair of the party. as you know, the democratic party has a large and broad and deep base including vice president biden, who's done a terrific job in his capacity as the second in command, but also, we have governors. a lot of diversity. duval patrick and we can all look as governor cuomo, you have elizabeth warren that might be considered presidential. so i don't wa
marco rubio and paul ryan spoke at this dinner. these are speeches where they're trying to define who they are. how would a rubio ryan stack up against clinton? it sort of feels like 2008 reversed except experience would come on the democratic side with hillary and youth might come from rubio or ryan on the republican side. >> clinton is a favorite among young people, especially young women. they're going to help determine future elections. i think paul ryan and marco rubio, they're...
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if he got marco rubio or rice assuming they would do it but -- >> if he went for meg whitman of california running for the senate and the chair -- the ceo of hewlett-packard. a serious woman as opposed to palin and the race in 2008. if he took a serious woman, he might have hosted a chance, i think. >> on obama, i mean, he ended up fighting a campaign that was pretty skillful on the ground where it mattered in the swing states. probably why he won. but you would say he didn't live up to the prams that he gave us four years ago. what does he have to do now? he can't face another election. what do you want him to do to show fulfillment of that promise? >> i think what i want him to do and what i think needs to be done are to some degree separate things but i do know that we have had a lot of programs, government-funded program that is represent both sides of the aisle. both sides want everything they want and found a way with this congress over the last several years to get much of what they want and we bought it on credit. and the time has come, because we have enormous debt and raise taxes
if he got marco rubio or rice assuming they would do it but -- >> if he went for meg whitman of california running for the senate and the chair -- the ceo of hewlett-packard. a serious woman as opposed to palin and the race in 2008. if he took a serious woman, he might have hosted a chance, i think. >> on obama, i mean, he ended up fighting a campaign that was pretty skillful on the ground where it mattered in the swing states. probably why he won. but you would say he didn't live...
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rubio are speaking at it, you look at their speeches, it's all about the war on poverty. it's all about strengthening civil society. you look at these ideas, he said that this is something that we could do. strangely there's a war on poverty campaign that democrats and republicans could find common ground. >> what gives me hope that we had an election that was hard-fought. in the end, the american people basically made a statement that they believe in government, they believe that government can still help solve programs. they believe it's government's job to focus on those most in need. >> look, i think -- i agree. the american people, i think, told us they want us to work together. the great thing about our system is, over time the will of american people always works through it. you got some checks and some balances. but in the end, politicians do what people tell them to do. >> i think you got a public employee going above and beyond the call of duty to help a homeless person just makes me think our government workers are pretty good people. >> no question about that.
rubio are speaking at it, you look at their speeches, it's all about the war on poverty. it's all about strengthening civil society. you look at these ideas, he said that this is something that we could do. strangely there's a war on poverty campaign that democrats and republicans could find common ground. >> what gives me hope that we had an election that was hard-fought. in the end, the american people basically made a statement that they believe in government, they believe that...
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you've been speaking a lot lately to senator marco rubio, had a sit-down conversation with him. i guess when you talked to him, you took another crack at that science question. clarify an answer he gave to "gq" when he was asked about the age of the earth. remember, senator rubio took a little grief, saying that he was not qualified to answer the question, calling it, quote, one of life's great mysteries. remember, i'm not a scientist, man, the whole thing. yesterday, mike, i guess you spoke to him as part of the "playbook" breakfast and you gave him a chance to explain that answer. let's listen. >> how old do you think the earth is? >> first of all, the answer i gave was trying to make the same point the president made a few years ago, and that is there is no scientific debate on the age of the earth. i mean, it's established it. pretty definitively. at least 4.5 billion years old. i was referring to a theological debate which is a pretty healthy debate. >> mike, what did you come away with talking to marco rubio yesterday? >> people in the room came away thinking that he was r
you've been speaking a lot lately to senator marco rubio, had a sit-down conversation with him. i guess when you talked to him, you took another crack at that science question. clarify an answer he gave to "gq" when he was asked about the age of the earth. remember, senator rubio took a little grief, saying that he was not qualified to answer the question, calling it, quote, one of life's great mysteries. remember, i'm not a scientist, man, the whole thing. yesterday, mike, i guess...
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. >> senator marco rubio making a rather bold state about his party. we saw the republicans' party inability to get with the program, with newt gingrich calling obama a food stam many president, mitt romney using words like "self-deportation," it was part of the southern strategy to woo white voters. but it back fired on them big time. the nation's first black president finished more strongly than any other nominee in decades, und decades. joining me is the maker of the movie "runaway slave." reverend brian, you have been critical of the democratic party. in an interview with the "blaze" you blame them for anti-republican sentiment. you say it's not that they're turned off to it, it's that they've saturated black minds that the word republican and conservative are words they have been taught to fear. it has been the democrats that have stood in the way of progress. sir, given the results of this past election, do you think that 93% of african-americans voted against their own interests? >> yes, indeed i do. in fact, there is a culture of dependency tha
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rubio, a lot of strong, younger voices in the party i would like to see more on. i turn on the tv and see newt gingrich back on tv. he hasn't been a republican leader in about 16 years. that's a long time. we need to shift and hear some of the newer voices in the party. >> i have to say just because you have some gray hair doesn't mean you can say those things. this isn't just about being inappropriate. >> i agree, kiki. >> sometimes the truth is inappropriate. these are just dead wrong. they're promoting myths and unfactual statements and you just can't let that go. whether you're young or old, you know better than that and you shouldn't be doing it. >> i agree. i think there are smart ways to talk about a lot of these issues. i think we're going to get that opportunity and it's going to be a test for the party for how we talk about things like immigration reform. if we change how we talk about and think about the immigrant community in this country, that's going to make -- i think that's going to make a difference but it is going to be a test for the party on th
rubio, a lot of strong, younger voices in the party i would like to see more on. i turn on the tv and see newt gingrich back on tv. he hasn't been a republican leader in about 16 years. that's a long time. we need to shift and hear some of the newer voices in the party. >> i have to say just because you have some gray hair doesn't mean you can say those things. this isn't just about being inappropriate. >> i agree, kiki. >> sometimes the truth is inappropriate. these are just...
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marco rubio and paul ryan both spoke at this dinner and they were -- these were speeches where they're trying to define themselves as who they are. both probably going to run in 2016. how would a rubio/ryan stack up against a hillary clinton? in a sense it sort of feels like 2008 reversed, right, except for experience would come on the democratic side with hillary and the youth and this sort of idealism might perhaps come from a rubio or ryan on the republican side? >> well, if i look at that poll you were referring to, hillary clinton is the overwhelming favorite among young people, especially young women. young people and young women, clearly they're going to help determine future elections. look, i think paul ryan and marco rubio, are trying to rebrand themselves and recast the republican party as a party of diversity and, perhaps, big ideas and a larger goalpost. i want to also say this because i have to say this as vice chair of the party. as you know, the democratic party has a large and broad base, including vice president biden, who's done terrific job in his capacity as second
marco rubio and paul ryan both spoke at this dinner and they were -- these were speeches where they're trying to define themselves as who they are. both probably going to run in 2016. how would a rubio/ryan stack up against a hillary clinton? in a sense it sort of feels like 2008 reversed, right, except for experience would come on the democratic side with hillary and the youth and this sort of idealism might perhaps come from a rubio or ryan on the republican side? >> well, if i look at...
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rubio and rand paul and maybe scott walker. these are all political leaders in the republican party that weren't there when mitt romney and john mccain before him got into the queue and said, hey, it's my turn to run for president. >> all right. from freedom works, i know you're doing a big conference this week. we'll be checking in with you again. thanks for coming on this morning. >> thanks, chuck. >>> developing now the supreme court took no action today on the pending gay marriage cases. justice correspondent pete williams is live for us at the supreme court. this is now two weeks in a row, pete, that we thought we would get an answer to them about how they would plan on taking up this question of gay marriage. >> right. two case, the defense of marriage act and proposition 8 from california. nothing on the orders list today. so we'll find out later today whether the court is going to take it up again at its closed door conference on this friday. so my guess is this friday will be the next day we'll find out whether or not
rubio and rand paul and maybe scott walker. these are all political leaders in the republican party that weren't there when mitt romney and john mccain before him got into the queue and said, hey, it's my turn to run for president. >> all right. from freedom works, i know you're doing a big conference this week. we'll be checking in with you again. thanks for coming on this morning. >> thanks, chuck. >>> developing now the supreme court took no action today on the pending...
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florida senator marco rubio received the second jack kemp leadership award. the first recipient was paul ryan. here they were. >> as you may know, marco is joining an elite group of past recipients for this award. two of us so far, i'll see you at the reunion dinner, table for two, know in good tables? >> thank you for your invitation for lunch from iowa and new hampshire. i will not stand by and watch the people of south carolina ignored. >> gloria borger, chief political analyst, little, i suppose, that is presidential primary humor there for these two? >> already. >> for these two potential republican candidates. these two men, they're in the midst of this discussion as to where the republican party needs to go next. how do their speeches last night fit into that discussion? >> well, first of all, they were at an event honoring jack kemp, who, of course, ran for the vice presidency and lost like paul ryan, and paul ryan's a disciple of jack kemp's. jack kemp was the original sort of inclusive republican. he really wanted to make sure the tent of the republ
florida senator marco rubio received the second jack kemp leadership award. the first recipient was paul ryan. here they were. >> as you may know, marco is joining an elite group of past recipients for this award. two of us so far, i'll see you at the reunion dinner, table for two, know in good tables? >> thank you for your invitation for lunch from iowa and new hampshire. i will not stand by and watch the people of south carolina ignored. >> gloria borger, chief political...
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he was backing marco rubio when established republicans were backing charlie crist. he says he can do more as an ideas now over at heritage, the oldest think tank on the conservative side. keep your eye on the governor of south carolina, she's a republican, it's up to her to pick a replacement to serve for two years who will she pick? that's what everybody wants to know. >> all right. thanks. >>> in egypt, opponents of president mohammed morsi are expected to take to the streets again. they were out in force last night in cairo chanting it was time for their president to resign. their anger was sparked two weeks ago when morsi granted himself sweeping powers. last night, morsi refused to rescind that decree, despite calls from proponents calling for him to do so. >>> the photographer who took a picture of a man standing on the subway tracks as a train approached insists he was trying to alert the driver of the train. that photo make it on the front page of the "new york post" it is sparking outrage. people are asking why the photographer did not do more to help the v
he was backing marco rubio when established republicans were backing charlie crist. he says he can do more as an ideas now over at heritage, the oldest think tank on the conservative side. keep your eye on the governor of south carolina, she's a republican, it's up to her to pick a replacement to serve for two years who will she pick? that's what everybody wants to know. >> all right. thanks. >>> in egypt, opponents of president mohammed morsi are expected to take to the streets...
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you talk about marco rubio and senator cruz in texas. >> steve: ram paul. >> brian: ram paul. i am stunned he would leave in a position of leadership and a go to guy to go to the heritage foundation. >> steve: the heritage foundation is a think tank and in the u.s. senate he is one of hundred voices and over there he will be taking over the guy. >> gretchen: money is number one. $174,000 as a senator and may not be the insentative and make over a million bucks and he said it was an honor to be asked. if could be frustration, too. look, he believed that could you wantry is facing a spending problem, okay. that's what he believes is the problem . maybe he's frustrated with the fact that the only message that the american people are hearing is that it is a tax increase problem. >> steve: indeed, who would take his place. the governor down there nicky haley will appoint somebody. successor could be one of two tea party congressman part of the 20 10. tim scott or mike mullbanny and a wild card is mark stanford former governor could take that job if offered and it will be interestin
you talk about marco rubio and senator cruz in texas. >> steve: ram paul. >> brian: ram paul. i am stunned he would leave in a position of leadership and a go to guy to go to the heritage foundation. >> steve: the heritage foundation is a think tank and in the u.s. senate he is one of hundred voices and over there he will be taking over the guy. >> gretchen: money is number one. $174,000 as a senator and may not be the insentative and make over a million bucks and he...
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we saw a jack kemp yesterday where he had marco rubio and paul ryan addressing crowds. the republican party is trying to figure out where do we go from here and there's a lot of moving pieces as part of that. >> stu very much for that. of course here, we're keeping an eye on apple, a big turn around right now as you can see, up $4.41 after yesterday's 6% selloff. i heard in the show why one shareholder is sticking by his claim that the shares could hit $16.50 so that you would treble your money at the end of 2016. >> find out next just how many people believe right now is a good-time to invest. stay tuned. [ male announcer ] when it comes to the financial obstacles military families face, we understand. at usaa, we know military life is different. we've been there. that's why every bit of financial advice we offer is geared specifically to current and former military members and their families. [ laughs ] dad! dad! [ applause ] ♪ [ male announcer ] life brings obstacles. usaa brings advice. call or visit us online. we're ready to help. [ male announcer ] what can you
we saw a jack kemp yesterday where he had marco rubio and paul ryan addressing crowds. the republican party is trying to figure out where do we go from here and there's a lot of moving pieces as part of that. >> stu very much for that. of course here, we're keeping an eye on apple, a big turn around right now as you can see, up $4.41 after yesterday's 6% selloff. i heard in the show why one shareholder is sticking by his claim that the shares could hit $16.50 so that you would treble your...
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bill o'reilly talked to marco rubio a star on the republican side. he said 85 billion a year if rates go up to 39 percent. it is nothing but symbolic, listen. >> my parents worked in the service industry and beaut a house. we always had more than we needed thank god and thank this country. it is only going to be possible in the future if we have limited government and free enterprise. people come here from all over the world to get rid of big government. i don't understand why we don't do a better job of lay out. i hope to be one of a multile voice to make that argument. it is the only way forward. we'll never be able to raise taxings. you can't generate enough. we need new taxpayers. >> gretchen: we didn't get our message out effectively enough. that is so true. the republicans actually have a legitimate message when it comes to the fact. if we increase taxings democrats have to cut entitlements. somewhere it gets lost in the shuffle. we ard from the president if we communicated better you would like my plan. what about the republicans, do we need a
bill o'reilly talked to marco rubio a star on the republican side. he said 85 billion a year if rates go up to 39 percent. it is nothing but symbolic, listen. >> my parents worked in the service industry and beaut a house. we always had more than we needed thank god and thank this country. it is only going to be possible in the future if we have limited government and free enterprise. people come here from all over the world to get rid of big government. i don't understand why we don't do...
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marco rubio, pat toomey. very conservative, anti-tax, anti-government purists in the mold of jim demint. however, he also backed in republican primaries a number of republican candidates who simply were not electable according to the republican establishment and the establishment was right. for example, remember christine o'donnell, i'm not a witch, from delaware. ken buck of colorado. and others. so those are some of the reasons why he definitely has ruffled many a-feather with the party leaders and i have to tell you first thing i saw when the senate republican leader mitch mcconnell released a statement today was making the point that demint had, quote, uncompromising service. didn't have to read between the lines too much to see there's a backhanded compliment. >> dana, what about bigger picture here and talking about the republican party aenl just talking about folks like ryan and rubio, let's say, part of maybe the next generation republicans. do you think that demint's brand of republicanism is falling
marco rubio, pat toomey. very conservative, anti-tax, anti-government purists in the mold of jim demint. however, he also backed in republican primaries a number of republican candidates who simply were not electable according to the republican establishment and the establishment was right. for example, remember christine o'donnell, i'm not a witch, from delaware. ken buck of colorado. and others. so those are some of the reasons why he definitely has ruffled many a-feather with the party...
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we've seen marco rubio make some comments. we've seen even paul ryan as well. do we see a shift that's happening here that's a little more immigrant friendly. >> i think losing for a second time and getting a low number of hispanics really stunk. it caused a wake-up call that we haven't seen before, and i think there's this realization that the immigration issue, though not the priority issue for hispanics, is an emotional issue and that we are losing hispanics and not able to talk to hispanics about other issues like the economy because, you know, because of the rhetoric, because of the tone issues like and the policy on lishz line immigration. i think there is a realization. now, you know, suzanne, this is washington. there's a huge difference between a realization and legislation. we'll just have to see what happens, and we're going to have to see what kind of skin in the game president obama and the democrats have come up with. this is going to have to be a bipartisan solution. >> all right. you mentioned mitt romney in his grave. let's see if he becomes re
we've seen marco rubio make some comments. we've seen even paul ryan as well. do we see a shift that's happening here that's a little more immigrant friendly. >> i think losing for a second time and getting a low number of hispanics really stunk. it caused a wake-up call that we haven't seen before, and i think there's this realization that the immigration issue, though not the priority issue for hispanics, is an emotional issue and that we are losing hispanics and not able to talk to...
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that suggested he might be looking beyond paul ryan, beyond marco rubio to one of these governors. it's also happening on the democratic side, martin o'malley, one of the candidates who for sure wants to run is having a fund-raiser here in chevy chase, maryland, today. then he's going to be out in los angeles this week talking to big funders. another possible democrat, andrew cuomo, your governor there in new york, to be here in d.c. today talking to new york members and senators. >> never too soon to get started on 2016. mike allen with a look at the "playbook." thanks so much. >> have a great week. >>> coming up next on "morning joe" -- >> here we go. final seconds. luck steps. luck, a little flip, donnie avery, he's in! touchdown! indianapolis has done it! >> that is the rookie, andrew luck, engineering a last-second comeback against the lions. the indianapolis colts continue their let's call it miraculous march toward the playoffs given where they were last season. mike florio, our buddy, takes us through all the nfl action including the quarterback controversy here in new york
that suggested he might be looking beyond paul ryan, beyond marco rubio to one of these governors. it's also happening on the democratic side, martin o'malley, one of the candidates who for sure wants to run is having a fund-raiser here in chevy chase, maryland, today. then he's going to be out in los angeles this week talking to big funders. another possible democrat, andrew cuomo, your governor there in new york, to be here in d.c. today talking to new york members and senators. >>...
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look at marco rubio's speech talking about the american dream beginning with janitors and other kinds of workers. ryan at that same dinner this week talking about needing to alleviate poverty. there is this -- all these cross currents in the republican party, and it comes around the issue of jobs. it comes around the issue of the fiscal cliff talks about what the party wants to be. whether there's going to be a tea party 2 or whether there's something of a vacuum that doesn't get filled with demint leaving the senate. >> all right. david, thank you so much. we'll be watching "meet the press" this sunday as we do every sunday. eugene, thank you as well. your latest column online at washingtonpost.com. >> guard that mustache, gene. >> i'm going to guard it with my life. >> and congressman emanuel cleaver, great to have you on set with us. >>> coming up, nbc chief white house correspondent chuck todd. and later in the show, "the economist" crunched the numbers and came up with the best countries to be born in in 2013. and the united states does not top their list. we'll find out who does
look at marco rubio's speech talking about the american dream beginning with janitors and other kinds of workers. ryan at that same dinner this week talking about needing to alleviate poverty. there is this -- all these cross currents in the republican party, and it comes around the issue of jobs. it comes around the issue of the fiscal cliff talks about what the party wants to be. whether there's going to be a tea party 2 or whether there's something of a vacuum that doesn't get filled with...